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Are You a Pedigree or a Mongrel?

by Victoria
published 17th Nov 2010

First it was horses, then it was dogs, and now it's lesbians falling over themselves to claim their pedigree certificate. And just in case you're wondering, I'm not talking about those poor lesbians with mixed parentage (one northern, one southern, shudder) I'm talking about something far purer than that. I'm talking about the right to wear the prestigious 'gold star'.



Now I generally haven’t got the patience or inclination to research these things too deeply, but in a nutshell the ‘gold star’ is awarded (by oneself) to lesbians so pure, so untainted by cock, that only they can consider themselves worthy of such an accolade.

I’m already feeling some hackles rising amongst you so I’m going to say, in public and for the record, that I have no problem whatsoever with a woman being very proud of the fact she discovered her sexual vocation without the need of messy and largely unsatisfactory dalliances with men.  I’d even go as far as to say that I wish I’d saved a lot of my early efforts. But what does concern me is the idea that women may use their ‘gold star status’ as a way of feeling superior over lesbians who clambered onto the podium still smelling of their last boyfriend.

The comments on my own blog tell me that while some of you believe it’s perfectly possible for me to enjoy the idea of a night of man sex and still be a real lesbian, others feel very strongly that if a lesbian so much as thinks of real cock they should leave their membership at the door and make their way to the ‘want their cake and eat it’ club, aka Bisexuality.

So, gold star holders, do you see the likes of me as an equal sexuality wise? Like a pure bred pony with lovely flanks or as a mongrel, virtually the same to look at but never allowed to Crufts?


Victoria

Victoria


Founder of Wildcherry and still licking the girls into shape.
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Comments

Why

By Doom Kitteh posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 12:48:59pm
Why is that such a hang up? I've heard of it but I don't understand the necessity. You would think that from all the shit 'phobes put a lot of people through, or just in general, we'd try not to do it with our own..

Is that asking for too much?

Bah, I get really annoyed when people do crap like that. When I was in my fist year at a community college there was a LGBT group that just started, a bisexual girl came in and said she was bi and the rolled eyes and scoffs pissed me off. I'm full-out les, and while yeah I've had my heart broken by a bisexual woman, I'm not gunna go and hate them all. So what if they like both, more power to ya.

I think I may have gone off on a tangent lol!

I kind of dated a guy once... and by 'kind of', I mean we went to the movies a few times and he kissed me once, which was the major "ok yeah I can't pretend to be straight" moment I had in 10th grade haha. That and I swear he was gay...

Right, I've lost whatever point I may have been trying to make xD;

Ms

By Goldie-lookin' star posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 12:57:43pm
Just because I have a gold star, doesn't mean to say I feel superior to others for it. It's my own personal pride and nothing to do with the rest of society. If I want to be proud as a lesbian, that I have never slept with a man, that's my prerogative.
That aside, if lesbians choose to sleep with men and don't want to be 'labelled' bisexual, who cares? Just crack on!
I wear my 'gold star' badge as proudly as my 'prefect badge'. No-one else needs to (and I am sure they don't) care.

Starry Eyed

By Lady Luck posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 1:08:05pm
i'm a gold star. something i do *sometimes* throw in peoples faces purely because of the stereotyping of lipsticks (me)...

Most lesbians have a hard time believing i'm gay, but a goldstar to boot? Well that just causes their delicate little brains to shrivel up and implode.

I don't, under any circumstances judge lesbians who do not possess the gold star status. So you dream of cocks? Big deal.

Just don't bring one near me.

Gold star revelations

By Becks posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 2:16:03pm
I am a gold star, my wife isn't. It didn't bother me when we met and it doesn't bother me now.

Everyone has their own story, their own version of their experience on becoming the person they are today, some people sleep with guys and/or girls along the way, it all adds upto the person you are.

I know that many women do use their gold star status specifically to try and make themselves feel more superior, for me, they can bollocks! These are generally the same types that look down at our bisexual sisters. Again bollocks!

You are who you are, gold star or not.

Now what about lone stars?? Do lone stars have the same prejudice?

Hang on.. what's a lonestar?

By Vic posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 2:18:31pm
Need an explanation please Becks : )

I'd rather be a 2 star hostel...

By Crumpets posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 3:28:10pm
I wonder if any of these self-proclaimed gold stars remember being young? Young women have such a lot of pressure on them these days without being afraid to experiment too. Does it really matter if they've had a cock or two along the way?

No cock thanks

By Goldie Lookin' star posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 3:54:17pm
I'm as much a self-proclaimed gold star as you are a self proclaimed lesbian/bisexual.
And as for 'remembering being young' how on earth do you know I'm not 'young' now??
I don't have an issue, but if I did, it would be calling yourself 'lesbian' when your sexuality boundaries are blurred. If that's what you like, then fine. But as far as I am aware, lesbians sleep with women. I don't think that definition has ever changed. If you're not a lesbian, you're woman who enjoys the freedom to sleep with who she likes.

Get over it

By MT posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 3:57:58pm
I hate all the gold star b*llocks. It doesn't matter what journey you took, just that you got to the destination right?
Took me a while to figure out where my head was, and as a result had a few Sausage Sessions. It's no big deal and I don't really care.
I'd never go back though, or at least I really, really can't imagine doing so. But if other women who identify as lesbians want to sleep with men now and again, who I am to judge? I wouldn't call a man/woman who slept with their own gender gay if that's not what they identified with, so should be the same the other way round.
I can't stand superiority complexes when it comes to gayness.

Lone stars...

By Becks posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 4:10:09pm
Vic, a lone star is someone who has only ever been with one person. Few and far between generally speaking but are they frowned upon? Is it an alien concept? Are prospective new partners put off because of it?!

and just for the record...

By Goldie Lookin' Chain posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 4:17:11pm
If you're a policewoman - you wear a police hat and a uniform. You don't wear one shiny button, half a tunic and call yourself WPC three days a week.
If you're a lesbian, you identify with sleeping with women.
Otherwise identify with something else.

I don't want my sexuality muddied by those that feel it's ok to eat cock when they're a bit bored.
But that, is just MY preference, as I said.

Lone star

By Vic posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 4:17:56pm
Thanks Becks : )

my tuppence worth

By angie posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 5:30:16pm
well said MT- sexuality is so fluid now, we shouldn't feel the need to box ourselves in.
these gold stars may think they are purer but where's your life experience, how do you know what you prefer if you have never tried anything else?

i'm not saying we *should* all have slept with men at one time, but to me the fact they feel better or more genuine lesbian because of it winds me up. i have, i may again. yet i'm a lesbian through and through. i know it -and i don't have to justify it to anyone.

it smacks of small town mentality as in 'why should i leave my safe little town to try something new and scary, i KNOW i won't like it' - don't be afraid of experimenting if the occasion calls for it, it's what makes us learn and grow and understand more about ourselves.
any anyway, don't you ever wonder what it's like?!

i'd be interested to know if these "pure" lesbians use strap ons -or is that just a cock too far?

Whatever

By Goldie Lookin' Hawn posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 5:52:00pm
There's no box. Just don't wear the name tag, if it aint your name!

Oh and for the record, being a lesbian in my tiny opinion, isn't about hating penetration, it's just not wanting it from a penis attached to a MAN! There's nothing a woman can't give that a man can.

final word

By angie posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 6:49:21pm
THERE AIN'T NO TAG...!! WHY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE A TAG?

Stars and Stripes

By LizRa posted Wednesday 17th November 2010 8:47:14pm
I'm a Goldstar but only because it took me ages to be ok with sex in general, then I realised I didn't want to be with guys and I didn't want my first time to be crap, I have too much self respect to just do it with anyone. I don't judge others tho, it is what it is we all need sex and we all need to find out what gets the motor running or doesn't. BTW I was 21 when I finally got laid and I am still with the girl that did the laying, so I have never been with another girl either! Does this mean I am a platinum star... and do I get a prize???

FAO angie

By Lady Luck posted Thursday 18th November 2010 9:54:19am
"i'd be interested to know if these "pure" lesbians use strap ons"

yes.

hmmm

By Mongrel posted Thursday 18th November 2010 11:47:49am
I didn't come out until I was 23. By this point I had had 2 children, who i love and would never change... so I'm proud of my 'mongrel' status and am now happily settled with my fiancee and getting CP'd next year. I always loved women, I just thought it would be easier to pretend I didn't, and I couldn't admit to it until I felt strong enough as a person.
Fair play if you're a gold star, i know a few myself...but I know a damn sight more lesbians who have at some time or another felt unsure....
:)

Ooh, the banter...

By 5 Star posted Thursday 18th November 2010 6:11:56pm
This is an interesting debate and I have to admit that I've never heard of this "Gold Star" term or even thought about the concept. Of course, I'm now sat here thinking about all of my lively lady-loving friends (and a few of my gay male pals have crept into my thoughts too*), and mentally filing each of them in their respective pedigree or mongrel categories. So far I have about 50% in each, although I couldn't swear that I know everything about everyone...

But after reading the comments I am struck by how quickly this has mutated into a "Lesbian" v "Bisexual" conversation as well as one about stars. Or purity? Whatever.

Personally I have probably had more than enough of my share of labels in my 34 and a half years, so I'm not really a fan of this malarky. For the record, I did dabble in the male market in my teens (or, more accurately, they dabbled in me, ahem...), but that was more about being over-sexed rather than any orientation confusion. Hence the "5 Star" moniker. At that time I probably considered myself a lesbian because I preferred girls, but I identified as bisexual - I could see that I didn't fit the definition because of my occasional boy-bonk. Oh, and giving myself the Lesbian label would have limited my options somewhat!

These days I wouldn't dream of labeling myself bisexual because I'm not. I have been with my wife for more than ten years and I honestly can't remember what I man feels like. Nor do I want to. But coming back to the point, I certainly feel worthy of being "Gold Star Lesbian" because it sounds like a good thing to be.

After all, aren't stars 'earned' for being rather good as something, rather than 'given' for something you did or didn't do in the past?

Star Status

By LizRa posted Thursday 18th November 2010 8:29:03pm
@FAO angie "i'd be interested to know if these "pure" lesbians use strap ons"

Hell yeah, doesn't mean I'm going to take up actual dick though, whilst I don't have any problems with the phallus (in all its glorious forms!) I'm just not attracted to the bit of skin hanging off it... ie: the Man.

My Gold star status means nothing on what I prefer in the boudoir, I wouldn't call myself 'pure' by any means because I haven't shagged a man. If you spent any time in amongst my fantasies you'd think that I perhaps preferred the title bisexual, but in real life I have just never felt turned on by a guy and never interested enough to try it out when girls get me off, but I guess that could change, I'm not opposed to the idea in theory. Mostly I guess I am Gold star mostly by chance than choice!

Great article

By Dee posted Sunday 21st November 2010 3:40:20pm

Live and let live

By Gem posted Sunday 21st November 2010 10:59:28pm
I've got no 'gold star' but I'm a lesbian alright, if I HAD to tick one of the three options that is...
I don't ware a badge or t-shirt nor do I feel the need to be proud of my sexuality.
Don't get me wrong I'm out and open and cool with WHO I am but I don't mind if
someone presumes I'm gay, straight whatever. I love my wife but theres much more to me than who I love.

Most of my mates [who tick the straight box] have tried sleeping with/kissing girls theres nothing wrong in shopping around surely!? I wouldn't feel the need to tell them that "Actually your gay luv, so stop wearing your straight badge with pride!"
Nonsense! were animals, sexuality and love is fluid and if you want to be labeled, have a little star and be proud good on you, go for it! but you are no better or worse then me or the next girl.

It's foolish to push your ideals onto others, just be happy and live and let live!

xG
=}

So what?

By Bex posted Sunday 21st November 2010 11:11:22pm
I will fully admit to being a gold star... But rather than be proud of it for a long time I've struggled with it... I've never been inclined to look at a man... Though at school I thought I was straight, and it was a relief to realise I was gay to be honest... But for a long time I've wondered if I can count myself fully gay because as many of the (excuse my French) tosspots who like to shout at me 'I don't know what I'm missing'... But now I'm married I'm proud to just be me... Sod the labels. Sod the what ifs. Why can't people just accept that people ( and thierry desires) come in all shapes and sizes...maybe we should start a new club... The I don't give a flying f*** group... We could have a flying pig as our emblem?

*shrug*

By Becky Rose posted Monday 22nd November 2010 1:50:15am
All I care about is whether you can cook and if you'll do my head in.

Becky Rose
The gold star card holder who can't cook.

erm

By Sarah posted Monday 22nd November 2010 11:35:42am
If I'd had it my way I would never have slept with a guy. Not because I wanted to be a gold star or anything, just because I purely didn't want to. The one and only guy I've slept with was after I'd come out, and I was absolutely plastered on a concoction of fosters and sambuca (I was having a really classy night!)
Being a gold star shouldn't pit you above everyone else, because as you're growing up you're told you should sleep with men. It almost seems like people do it because it's what's expected of them. I do tip my hat to anyone who managed to not sleep with a guy because they were that sure of themselves, but it isn't the most common situation, and it shouldn't be used to make themselves feel superior to lesbians who have slept with men.

A lot of straight people I know say "How can you be sure if you've never slept with a guy?" to lesbians who are gold stars. But at the end of the day, how did they know they were straight? I'm sure not all of my heterosexual female friends have had a fling with a women just to be sure that they like guys.

Anyway that's my two cents on the topic.

Stop labelling my sex life

By Carmen B posted Monday 22nd November 2010 5:13:21pm
I'm a bi woman and just do not see the need for yet another label and nor do I want one. Whether I have sex with a man or a woman is because of the person's attractiveness to me and just part of who I am. And I do not require a gold star to 'prove' my status in the lgbt strand.

Born to be a gold star!

By SamStar posted Saturday 4th December 2010 11:07:54pm
I don't think it matters if people are a 'gold star' or not - I confess to being a lone gold star but I think my penis phobia has something to do with it!! It all comes down to personal choice at the end of the day. I don't think I could physically have sex with a man so will definitely maintain my gold star status and plan to keep my lone star status too :-D

No stars, and apatehtic.

By CB posted Sunday 5th December 2010 11:26:11am
Everything I would have said has already been said by Carmen B

Gold-Star, Lone-Star, 5 STAR!!

By Natty posted Monday 6th December 2010 3:44:52pm
Well, I must admit that the whole 'Star' concept really entertains me. Although I am dating a 'Lone, Gold star', I must confess that I have kissed a few (well, quiet a few!) frogs prior to finding my princess. I spent 25 of my 27 years deep in the closet and this can not be achieved without at least trying one or two of the male variety - lets face it, it took me the 25 years to realise that it wasn't that the sex was a waste of time, merely sex with men was!

I'm really happy for those who were/are able to have the self discipline and self confidence to know from an early age that they are women only and I don't feel any type of animosity or jealously towards them. If they look at me as to say 'you are not welcome to my star-club'' then that says more about them, because I have no guilt about my past and it has no influence upon my future sexual and emotional relationships with men. I have realised that women are the future and if anything my past experiences have gone some way in allowing me to understand my body and that of other women. So for all those intent upon classification I would call myself a '5 star lover'! ;) Nat xx

muttley of the muttest

By joolsbaby posted Wednesday 20th April 2011 11:01:19pm
i dont qualify for any stars. i had sex with so many men that i lost count...literally. but i remember every single woman ive slept with...and theres been a few. but i was searching..trying to find that elusive thing we all want..the perfect fit. i also wanted to please mt parents (as a young girl) please my friends (as a teen) even conform to what was expected...it wasnt until i decided to please myself that i even knew i wasnt bisexual but completely lesbian. having sex is easy...anyone can do it with anyone...having good satisfying sex is hard, until you actually know who you are. and at least when stupid men say `oh you just havent had the right bloke yet' i can say...`well i might have, show me his photo and i'll see if i remember him' for the record tho..i dont ever envisage ever having sex with anyone other than my future wife ever again. every single person has a different journey. and mine will not be the same as yours and yours will be different to the next persons.

Stars...

By Vicky posted Thursday 21st April 2011 9:08:52am
Remember the last group of people who categorised people using a star system?

Just saying!

:D

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